{"@context":"http://iiif.io/api/presentation/3/context.json","id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/iiif/3f4kk96f0k/manifest","type":"Manifest","label":{"en":["1372 - Andree Salomon, no. 1"]},"logo":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/610/original/aviary_default_logo.png?1724134410","metadata":[{"label":{"en":["Identifier"]},"value":{"en":["1372 (IDEA Catalog No.)"]}},{"label":{"en":["Agent"]},"value":{"en":["Gouri Haim (Interviewer)","Salomon Andree (Interviewee)"]}},{"label":{"en":["Description"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eDocumentary Trilogy testimonies: Andree Salomon, no. 1\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003e \u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003eLength of recording: 31:16.\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003e \u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003eContent:\u003cbr\u003eAndree Salomon worked as part of the OSE (Oeuvre de Secours aux Enfants) organization to rescue Jewish children in France during World War II. Salomon and her colleagues were involved in the systematic smuggling of children from concentration camps, including Gurs and Rivesaltes, France, and hiding them in convents, boarding schools, and among French families. As the threat of deportation increased, the underground Reseau Garel network was established, which provided children with false identities and ensured that the lists of real names were hidden in Switzerland and France. The network's activities, which also included illegally crossing the borders to Spain and Switzerland, resulted in the rescue of thousands of children. In her testimony, Salomon describes the rescue activities in occupied France, the conditions of detention in the Gurs and Rivesaltes camps, and the establishment of the underground infrastructure for hiding children and smuggling them out of the country's borders. In her testimony, Salomon addresses the situation of Jews vis-à-vis the French and German police forces, and the network’s social workers whose work was conducted under constant danger.\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003e \u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003eThe Ghetto Fighters' House Museum produced three documentary films known as The Documentary Trilogy. The films are: The 81st Blow (1974), The Last Sea (1979), and Flames in the Ashes (1985). The creators were David Bergman, Jacquot Ehrlich, and Haim Gouri.\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003e \u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003eMany recorded testimonies were integrated into the films. 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l'abattoire.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169533/file/308161#t=0.0,11.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169533/file/308161/transcript/93157/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"D'où vient cette accusation ?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169533/file/308161#t=11.0,14.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169533/file/308161/transcript/93157/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"À votre avis, est-ce que c'est une réalité, c'est une vérité historique 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l'époque","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169533/file/308161#t=25.0,29.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169533/file/308161/transcript/93157/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"que j'ai vécue avec les gens de mon âge, dès le début de la guerre, a prouvé que nous avions très peu de moyens d'agir contre l'ennemi qui est venu sur nous, parce que nous trouvions tout de suite en état de guerre et nous avions contre nous un ennemi que nous connaissions bien.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169533/file/308161#t=29.0,58.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169533/file/308161/transcript/93157/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nous redoutions beaucoup l'allemand.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169533/file/308161#t=58.0,61.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169533/file/308161/transcript/93157/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Par exemple, je vous donne un exemple tout à fait probant, à Strasbourg, la ville que nous habitions, nous savions que nous allions être évacués.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169533/file/308161#t=61.0,74.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169533/file/308161/transcript/93157/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Et il était prévu qu'au moment de l'évacuation, nous devrions quitter cette ville.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169533/file/308161#t=74.0,80.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169533/file/308161/transcript/93157/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"C'était une ville de 180 000 habitants.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169533/file/308161#t=80.0,84.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169533/file/308161/transcript/93157/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Alors nous pouvions emporter 20 kilos et nous devions quitter dans un espace de très peu d'heures.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169533/file/308161#t=84.0,94.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169533/file/308161/transcript/93157/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Je m'étais occupée depuis assez longtemps, dans le cadre du comité de bienfaisance de cette ville et avec les institutions juives de cette ville, d'accueillir des enfants juifs venus d'Allemagne","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169533/file/308161#t=94.0,112.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169533/file/308161/transcript/93157/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"originaires de Pologne ou originaires d'Allemagne, qui avaient été accueillis par différentes institutions à partir de trois ans, ou qui étaient venus avec leur famille, ou qui étaient venus isolément, comme orphelins, qui avaient même parfois traversé tout seul le pont du Rhin et que nos œuvres avaient 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Strasbourg et seraient évacués d'office par les trains d'évacuation, nous avions déjà organisé avec l'œuvre qui a survécu pendant toute la guerre, l'aide sociale.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169533/file/308161#t=163.0,186.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169533/file/308161/transcript/93157/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"de Strasbourg, présidée par Laure Weil et dirigée par Fanny Schwab, nous avions prévu que j'évacuerais ces enfants-là en premier lieu, dans un lieu sûr, pour les mettre à l'abri, pour voir 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miracle.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169533/file/308161#t=1381.0,1383.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169533/file/308161/transcript/93157/annotation/179","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Mais il y a eu des fuites.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169533/file/308161#t=1383.0,1386.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169533/file/308161/transcript/93157/annotation/180","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Il y a des personnes qui se sont enfuies des 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suralimenter les gens.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169533/file/308161#t=1626.0,1636.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169533/file/308161/transcript/93157/annotation/226","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Il y a eu cette chose terrible dont vous avez peut-être entendu parler.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169533/file/308161#t=1636.0,1640.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169533/file/308161/transcript/93157/annotation/227","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"On a écrit un peu à ce 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coopérant qui a donné un certificat de travail pour la libération pour une femme qui est devenue cuisinière chez lui.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169533/file/308161#t=1773.0,1800.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169533/file/308161/transcript/93157/annotation/250","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Un certificat","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169533/file/308161#t=1800.0,1801.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169533/file/308161/transcript/93157/annotation/251","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"de sortie pour une jeune fille de soi-disant 14 ans et demi, qui en avait 19, qui est venue bonne d'enfant chez 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