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Be what?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164539/file/299583#t=551.0,558.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164539/file/299583/transcript/88357/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Be what?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164539/file/299583#t=558.0,558.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164539/file/299583/transcript/88357/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Be what? Was there any feeling that the Colonial Office policy or natural sympathy might be overrode by the senior department of the Foreign Office, particularly Bevin, who was the strong man of the government?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164539/file/299583#t=558.0,571.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164539/file/299583/transcript/88357/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSir Gordon MacMillan:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, I couldn't say.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164539/file/299583#t=571.0,572.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164539/file/299583/transcript/88357/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eInterviewer:\u003c/strong\u003e No, I couldn't say.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164539/file/299583#t=572.0,574.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164539/file/299583/transcript/88357/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSir Gordon MacMillan:\u003c/strong\u003e I simply wouldn't know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164539/file/299583#t=574.0,575.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164539/file/299583/transcript/88357/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I mean, it's just far above my head.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164539/file/299583#t=575.0,580.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164539/file/299583/transcript/88357/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eInterviewer:\u003c/strong\u003e To get back to Palestine itself, then, when you arrived, there was this erection of the compounds.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164539/file/299583#t=580.0,587.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164539/file/299583/transcript/88357/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And then at the beginning of March, following another series of kidnappings, there was the first, I think it was the first institution of martial law. 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Now, what do you remember about that period?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164539/file/299583#t=597.0,600.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164539/file/299583/transcript/88357/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And how did it work on the ground?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164539/file/299583#t=600.0,604.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164539/file/299583/transcript/88357/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSir Gordon MacMillan:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, it wasn't very successful, don't you remember?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164539/file/299583#t=604.0,608.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164539/file/299583/transcript/88357/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It only lasted for a short time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164539/file/299583#t=608.0,610.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164539/file/299583/transcript/88357/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eInterviewer:\u003c/strong\u003e Two weeks.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164539/file/299583#t=610.0,611.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164539/file/299583/transcript/88357/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSir Gordon MacMillan:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, and it was then that Sir Aaron and I came to the conclusion that it really wasn't achieving as much as it might, and so we stopped it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164539/file/299583#t=611.0,623.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164539/file/299583/transcript/88357/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eInterviewer:\u003c/strong\u003e Did you come to conclusions analyse why it wasn't achieving what was wrong? 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May I just refer to that was...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164539/file/299583#t=631.0,636.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164539/file/299583/transcript/88357/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"A march, wasn't it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164539/file/299583#t=636.0,638.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164539/file/299583/transcript/88357/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Yes, martial 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It was after this, just as it was after this.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164539/file/299583#t=859.0,862.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164539/file/299583/transcript/88357/annotation/132","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"But I think it must have been about April, wasn't it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164539/file/299583#t=862.0,865.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164539/file/299583/transcript/88357/annotation/133","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I should 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Can you describe the condition?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164539/file/299583#t=1530.0,1533.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164539/file/299583/transcript/88357/annotation/263","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSir Gordon MacMillan:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, they were packed.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164539/file/299583#t=1533.0,1536.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164539/file/299583/transcript/88357/annotation/264","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"at the top of each other in banks, in 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What do you remember of the Exodus?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164539/file/299583#t=1628.0,1631.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164539/file/299583/transcript/88357/annotation/286","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Because that was really in your time. 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Probably six months after you had arrived.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164539/file/299583#t=1632.0,1635.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164539/file/299583/transcript/88357/annotation/289","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSir Gordon MacMillan:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, it was, of course, in the case of Exodus, we wanted to send them back because it was the first ship from which we were absolutely certain of where it came from, and we wanted to send it back to the port from which it started so that the people in that particular port would 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That's right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164539/file/299583#t=1685.0,1686.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164539/file/299583/transcript/88357/annotation/298","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And therefore we wanted to send it back there so that the people in that particular locality would not allow immigrants to pass through there again.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164539/file/299583#t=1686.0,1699.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164539/file/299583/transcript/88357/annotation/299","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eInterviewer:\u003c/strong\u003e It was how Billy insists that one of the reasons to send 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Did you regard the other Zionist leaders in the second part?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164539/file/299583#t=2282.0,2285.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164539/file/299583/transcript/88357/annotation/409","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSir Gordon MacMillan:\u003c/strong\u003e I thought, I think most of the others were rather, I mean, I never quite knew where one stood with them.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164539/file/299583#t=2285.0,2290.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164539/file/299583/transcript/88357/annotation/410","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I always felt that they were probably both were all rather extremist.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164539/file/299583#t=2290.0,2295.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164539/file/299583/transcript/88357/annotation/411","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eInterviewer:\u003c/strong\u003e All. 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I mean, Weizmann is the one outstanding one.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164539/file/299583#t=2296.0,2298.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164539/file/299583/transcript/88357/annotation/414","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I see.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164539/file/299583#t=2298.0,2301.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164539/file/299583/transcript/88357/annotation/415","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eInterviewer:\u003c/strong\u003e Do you remember Sheratok, for instance?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164539/file/299583#t=2301.0,2303.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164539/file/299583/transcript/88357/annotation/416","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"No, I didn't meet him.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164539/file/299583#t=2303.0,2307.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164539/file/299583/transcript/88357/annotation/417","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Bernard Joseph, did you meet him?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164539/file/299583#t=2307.0,2310.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164539/file/299583/transcript/88357/annotation/418","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSir Gordon MacMillan:\u003c/strong\u003e No.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164539/file/299583#t=2310.0,2311.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164539/file/299583/transcript/88357/annotation/419","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I didn't really have I mean, apart from a fleeting meeting, I didn't really have any idea, because that was really a matter of the High Commissioner.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164539/file/299583#t=2311.0,2322.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164539/file/299583/transcript/88357/annotation/420","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And my intelligence staff were the lower what do I call the lower regs?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164539/file/299583#t=2322.0,2330.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164539/file/299583/transcript/88357/annotation/421","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eInterviewer:\u003c/strong\u003e One point that occurs to me again, the hunt after the terrorists from the terrorist leaders, there's this great legend, it's not a legend, it's a truthful legend, if I can say, about Begin, current Prime Minister.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164539/file/299583#t=2330.0,2345.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164539/file/299583/transcript/88357/annotation/422","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You never succeeded in catching him. 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What?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164539/file/299583#t=2624.0,2628.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164539/file/299583/transcript/88357/annotation/486","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"What?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164539/file/299583#t=2628.0,2628.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164539/file/299583/transcript/88357/annotation/487","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSir Gordon MacMillan:\u003c/strong\u003e What? In what way you've been upset?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164539/file/299583#t=2628.0,2631.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164539/file/299583/transcript/88357/annotation/488","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eInterviewer:\u003c/strong\u003e I mean, the sound is always there. 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It's not the first time.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164539/file/299583#t=2633.0,2634.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164539/file/299583/transcript/88357/annotation/491","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You don't feel pleased when your chaps do desert, do you?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164539/file/299583#t=2634.0,2636.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164539/file/299583/transcript/88357/annotation/492","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eInterviewer:\u003c/strong\u003e You know, Kirkbride, Sir Alec 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Now that is while the legion was still under your command.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164539/file/299583#t=2735.0,2740.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164539/file/299583/transcript/88357/annotation/509","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSir Gordon MacMillan:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, I think there might well be something in that, but it certainly, I'm going to think of the British troops.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164539/file/299583#t=2740.0,2748.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164539/file/299583/transcript/88357/annotation/510","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And the troops that went south, that you 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Do you remember the course of immigration during those last few months?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164539/file/299583#t=3258.0,3263.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164539/file/299583/transcript/88357/annotation/606","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"People were being allowed back in from Cyprus quietly, I believe.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164539/file/299583#t=3263.0,3268.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164539/file/299583/transcript/88357/annotation/607","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Do you remember any of 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Is there no possibility of putting British troops and replacing the honourable legion and netting these infantries?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164539/file/299583#t=3851.0,3858.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164539/file/299583/transcript/88357/annotation/716","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSir Gordon MacMillan:\u003c/strong\u003e It was quite a long front here.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164539/file/299583#t=3858.0,3862.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164539/file/299583/transcript/88357/annotation/717","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"You've only got to look and see what's 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