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הוסבר לנו שהאם שיננה לה, לתינוקת, 11","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134803/file/249863#t=810.0,820.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134803/file/249863/transcript/92858/annotation/123","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"חודש, שאסור לה לבכות כשהיא רעבה, כשהיא פוחדת, כי מישהו ישמע בחוץ ויהרוג אותן.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134803/file/249863#t=820.0,830.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134803/file/249863/transcript/92858/annotation/124","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"עכשיו, כאשר היא ראתה בפעם הראשונה את החופש, היא שמעה את אימא בוכה","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134803/file/249863#t=830.0,840.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134803/file/249863/transcript/92858/annotation/125","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ושאלה, אימא (יידיש) המותר כבר לבכות?. ואז אמרתי לבית המשפט, אני יכול לספר עוד דברים","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134803/file/249863#t=840.0,850.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134803/file/249863/transcript/92858/annotation/126","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"שראיתי, אבל לשם מה? הם בעצם...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134803/file/249863#t=850.0,860.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134803/file/249863/transcript/92858/annotation/127","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אפשר שזה הכול.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134803/file/249863#t=860.0,870.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134803/file/249863/transcript/92858/annotation/128","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"גם התינוקת הראשונה שראינו לאחר","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134803/file/249863#t=870.0,880.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134803/file/249863/transcript/92858/annotation/129","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"הגטו, והאם, והשאלה, ואנחנו מולה ברחובות ריקים. אבל זה בעצם הכול. ואף על פי כן, זה לא הכול.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134803/file/249863#t=880.0,890.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134803/file/249863/transcript/92858/annotation/130","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אז אולי אני אשלים כמה דברים שפה שמענו מרוז'קה ומוויטקה,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134803/file/249863#t=890.0,900.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134803/file/249863/transcript/92858/annotation/131","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"להשלים קצת את התמונה הנגלית. משונה","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134803/file/249863#t=900.0,910.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134803/file/249863/transcript/92858/annotation/132","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"שגם אתה, חיים, שואל שאלה, שבתוך השאלה יש איזה","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134803/file/249863#t=910.0,920.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134803/file/249863/transcript/92858/annotation/133","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"סתום גדול. אתה אומר, רגע...","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134803/file/249863#t=920.0,929.16971"}]}]}]}