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Schiffer presents data on the scope of Jewish resistance and describes events such as the burning of synagogues in Antwerp, Belgium. He analyzes the cooperation between the Committee for the Defense of Jews (CDJ - Comite de Defense des Juifs) with the local population and the Catholic Church, which resulted in the rescue of Jewish children. Schiffer elaborates on the activities of the MOI - Main-d'Oeuvre Immigrée and sabotage, including the burning of Judenrat cards in Brussels in order to thwart the deportation of Jews to the camps. He also describes his experiences as a fighter, his injury and rescue by his comrades, and refers to the struggle of the Jewish underground in Belgium under the Nazi occupation and local collaborators.\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003e \u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003eThe Ghetto Fighters' House Museum produced three documentary films known as The Documentary Trilogy. The films are: The 81st Blow (1974), The Last Sea (1979), and Flames in the Ashes (1985). 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Schiffer presents data on the scope of Jewish resistance and describes events such as the burning of synagogues in Antwerp, Belgium. He analyzes the cooperation between the Committee for the Defense of Jews (CDJ - Comite de Defense des Juifs) with the local population and the Catholic Church, which resulted in the rescue of Jewish children. Schiffer elaborates on the activities of the MOI - Main-d'Oeuvre Immigr\u0026eacute;e and sabotage, including the burning of Judenrat cards in Brussels in order to thwart the deportation of Jews to the camps. He also describes his experiences as a fighter, his injury and rescue by his comrades, and refers to the struggle of the Jewish underground in Belgium under the Nazi occupation and local collaborators.\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003e\u0026nbsp;\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003eThe Ghetto Fighters' House Museum produced three documentary films known as The Documentary Trilogy. The films are: The 81st Blow (1974), The Last Sea (1979), and Flames in the Ashes (1985). The creators were David Bergman, Jacquot Ehrlich, and Haim Gouri.\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003e\u0026nbsp;\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003eMany recorded testimonies were integrated into the films. The raw materials of the testimonies are kept in the archive of the Ghetto Fighters' House Museum.\u003c/p\u003e"]},"provider":[{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Ghetto Fighters' House"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Ghetto Fighters' House"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/610/original/aviary_default_logo.png?1724134410","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collections/default_thumbs/000/002/950/small/Gemini_Generated_Image_nr5cx8nr5cx8nr5c.png?1769692460","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169539/file/308167","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - 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Bruxelles.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169539/file/308167#t=3.0,11.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169539/file/308167/transcript/93164/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Intervieweurr: Alors, la question?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169539/file/308167#t=11.0,16.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169539/file/308167/transcript/93164/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Rick Schiffer: Donc, il vous intéresse particulièrement la participation des Juifs dans la Résistance.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169539/file/308167#t=16.0,23.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169539/file/308167/transcript/93164/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Alors, je vais essayer du moins de vous expliquer d'abord en chiffres.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169539/file/308167#t=23.0,28.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169539/file/308167/transcript/93164/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"La population juive en Belgique pendant la guerre et avant-guerre, au début de l'occupation, représentait environ 0,4 à 0,5 % de la population nationale.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169539/file/308167#t=28.0,43.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169539/file/308167/transcript/93164/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ça veut dire qu'il y avait une fourchette de 55 000 Juifs, jeunes, enfants, jeunes, femmes, vieillards, en Belgique.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169539/file/308167#t=43.0,55.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169539/file/308167/transcript/93164/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nous avons réussi","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169539/file/308167#t=55.0,58.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169539/file/308167/transcript/93164/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Dans les actions que l'Union des anciens résistants juifs a menées à faire des recherches par l'entremise d'un historien, Maxime Steinberg, et nous sommes actuellement à une fourchette d'environ 2000 Juifs dans la Résistance.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169539/file/308167#t=58.0,76.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169539/file/308167/transcript/93164/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ça veut dire un chiffre de près de 3% de la population juive, ce qui est colossal en égard de la résistance nationale.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169539/file/308167#t=76.0,88.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169539/file/308167/transcript/93164/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Nous avons eu des résistants qui sont tombés jusqu'à la limite du 8 mai 1009, 100405210042 juifs enregistrés qui sont morts pour faits de résistance.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169539/file/308167#t=88.0,106.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169539/file/308167/transcript/93164/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"D'ailleurs, il y a un monument qui rappelle cet événement.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169539/file/308167#t=106.0,112.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169539/file/308167/transcript/93164/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Une maquette va prochainement être reproduite.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169539/file/308167#t=112.0,116.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169539/file/308167/transcript/93164/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"au musée Lakhamehagetout.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169539/file/308167#t=116.0,129.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169539/file/308167/transcript/93164/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Je n'ai pas été confronté avec le phénomène sinistre.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169539/file/308167#t=129.0,134.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169539/file/308167/transcript/93164/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Je n'ai pas porté d'étoiles 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l'incendie.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169539/file/308167#t=202.0,224.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169539/file/308167/transcript/93164/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ils étaient fort peu nombreux et la population non juive d'Anvers","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169539/file/308167#t=224.0,229.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169539/file/308167/transcript/93164/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"a d'ailleurs fort critiqué et combattu cet 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et y mêlant les enfants dans les hôpitaux, dans les institutions, les écoles, même dans certaines sections d'anormaux où des jeunes Juifs ont pu se caser.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169539/file/308167#t=383.0,405.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169539/file/308167/transcript/93164/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Et puis, la population a.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169539/file/308167#t=405.0,409.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169539/file/308167/transcript/93164/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Particulièrement aidé à ce sauvetage, et les Juifs de Belgique ont mené une action très 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mémoire.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169539/file/308167#t=569.0,578.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169539/file/308167/transcript/93164/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"dont parmi les premiers arrêtés étaient d'ailleurs des Juifs qui étaient placés là-bas.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169539/file/308167#t=578.0,583.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169539/file/308167/transcript/93164/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ils n'avaient même aucune activité politique ou antifasciste quelconque, simplement ramassés pour des raisons qu'ils étaient juifs, des raisons mineures, mais arrêtés et mis à 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