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Moshe and his friends circled between pigpens and cemeteries until they encountered Polish partisans from the Home Army (Armia Krajowa) in February 1944. These sent them on a suicide mission, so they continued on their way until they found hiding by a Polish farmer.\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003e \u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003eThe Ghetto Fighters' House Museum produced three documentary films known as The Documentary Trilogy. The films are: The 81st Blow (1974), The Last Sea (1979), and Flames in the Ashes (1985). 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