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Beth.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169573/file/308208#t=60.0,72.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169573/file/308208/transcript/93246/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ces mêmes pétroliers qui, plus tard, ont fait fortune en Israël.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169573/file/308208#t=72.0,79.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169573/file/308208/transcript/93246/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"C'était l'époque où la famille Rothschild préférait louer ses 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Merci.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169573/file/308208#t=362.0,362.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169573/file/308208/transcript/93246/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Moi, je suis.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169573/file/308208#t=362.0,364.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169573/file/308208/transcript/93246/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Father Alexander Glasberg: Qui était à cette époque ?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169573/file/308208#t=364.0,366.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169573/file/308208/transcript/93246/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Vous voulez vous faire vous?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169573/file/308208#t=366.0,367.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169573/file/308208/transcript/93246/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Intervieweur: Oui, ça c'est très 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antifasciste.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169573/file/308208#t=660.0,665.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169573/file/308208/transcript/93246/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Alors le devoir était très clair et j'étais très déçu que les travaillistes au pouvoir aient appliqué la même politique qu'ils avaient reproché aux conservateurs anglais.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169573/file/308208#t=665.0,676.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169573/file/308208/transcript/93246/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Et alors tandis que Bidault me 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anglais.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169573/file/308208#t=787.0,796.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169573/file/308208/transcript/93246/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"parce que, par exemple, j'étais bavaniste, non pas beviniste, ça, parce que Bevan appartenait à la gauche du parti travailliste dont j'étais solidaire et dont Crossman faisait partie, ainsi que Michael Foote par exemple.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169573/file/308208#t=796.0,814.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169573/file/308208/transcript/93246/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Alors j'avais de très bons amis anglais qui m'ont approuvé d'ailleurs dans l'affaire de l'Exodus.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169573/file/308208#t=814.0,823.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169573/file/308208/transcript/93246/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Malheureusement, ils étaient minoritaires.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169573/file/308208#t=823.0,827.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169573/file/308208/transcript/93246/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Intervieweur: Alors comment expliquez-vous cette position tellement virulente, indéchiffrable du côté de Bevin 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arabe.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169573/file/308208#t=842.0,852.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169573/file/308208/transcript/93246/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Je ne crois pas qu'il était personnellement","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169573/file/308208#t=852.0,854.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169573/file/308208/transcript/93246/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"corrompu, ce n'est pas la 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il a marché complètement.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169573/file/308208#t=896.0,913.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169573/file/308208/transcript/93246/annotation/102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"le directeur des affaires générales au ministère de l'intérieur aussi.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169573/file/308208#t=913.0,919.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169573/file/308208/transcript/93246/annotation/103","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Et puis alors mon ami André Blumel avait été directeur de cabinet du premier ministre socialiste de l'intérieur Adrien Texier et il avait gardé beaucoup de relations et je lui 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d'Exodus,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169573/file/308208#t=966.0,970.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169573/file/308208/transcript/93246/annotation/110","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Le ministre de l'Intérieur vous accueille en France, si vous voulez revenir en France, mais ça vous regarde.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169573/file/308208#t=970.0,976.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169573/file/308208/transcript/93246/annotation/111","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"C'est vous le seul qui déciderez de votre seule 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les.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169573/file/308208#t=1048.0,1050.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169573/file/308208/transcript/93246/annotation/130","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Edouard Depreux: Absolument, oui, mais à ce moment-là, les communistes marchaient très bien parce que la reconnaissance d'Israël a été votée","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169573/file/308208#t=1050.0,1059.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169573/file/308208/transcript/93246/annotation/131","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"un peu plus tard, par les Etats-Unis et la Russie soviétique.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169573/file/308208#t=1059.0,1064.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169573/file/308208/transcript/93246/annotation/132","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Et je crois que c'était même l'Union soviétique qui était à l'avant-garde, si j'ose dire.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169573/file/308208#t=1064.0,1071.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169573/file/308208/transcript/93246/annotation/133","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Par conséquent, les communistes qui étaient staliniens à cette époque-là, obéissaient à l'Union 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de la commission qui était communiste.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169573/file/308208#t=1095.0,1116.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169573/file/308208/transcript/93246/annotation/138","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ils nous ont félicité chaleureusement.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169573/file/308208#t=1116.0,1119.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169573/file/308208/transcript/93246/annotation/139","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Intervieweur: Une réaction nationale, de fierté nationale contre la pression anglaise 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