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?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169541/file/308169#t=42.0,42.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169541/file/308169/transcript/93166/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"C'était une autre chose, la révolte de Komorovsky était préparée, c'est à dire s'était préparée pendant quatre ans d'occupation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169541/file/308169#t=42.0,51.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169541/file/308169/transcript/93166/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Et d'ailleurs, c'était une chose, la seconde chose, on discutait jusqu'au dernier moment si les riches","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169541/file/308169#t=51.0,59.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169541/file/308169/transcript/93166/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"sont assez prêts pour venir dans 2 jours.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169541/file/308169#t=59.0,63.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169541/file/308169/transcript/93166/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"On comptait pour 2 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non.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169541/file/308169#t=540.0,543.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169541/file/308169/transcript/93166/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Non, parce que j'étais conscient","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169541/file/308169#t=543.0,547.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169541/file/308169/transcript/93166/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ce que je répétais toujours, disant à mes amis, dans le ghetto et pris dans le camp.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169541/file/308169#t=547.0,554.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169541/file/308169/transcript/93166/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Imaginez-vous ce SS, sans son uniforme, mais devant vous qui vous avez les armes, et lui, il est en guenille.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169541/file/308169#t=554.0,567.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169541/file/308169/transcript/93166/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Et ça, j'étais 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photogénique.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169541/file/308169#t=600.0,606.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169541/file/308169/transcript/93166/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Les Allemands le savaient.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169541/file/308169#t=606.0,608.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169541/file/308169/transcript/93166/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Et c'est pour ça qu'ils photographiaient la 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captivité.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169541/file/308169#t=642.0,646.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169541/file/308169/transcript/93166/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Ils n'avaient pas derrière eux toutes les souffrances de longues années comme des Juifs.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169541/file/308169#t=646.0,653.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169541/file/308169/transcript/93166/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Et je vous assure qu'ils n'étaient pas beaux à 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humaine.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169541/file/308169#t=697.0,720.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169541/file/308169/transcript/93166/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Quand je pense","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169541/file/308169#t=720.0,721.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169541/file/308169/transcript/93166/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"disons, ce qu'on pouvait endurer, de la famine dans le camp, disons, moi, je passais par la prison, pas par le.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169541/file/308169#t=721.0,732.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169541/file/308169/transcript/93166/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Après.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169541/file/308169#t=732.0,735.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169541/file/308169/transcript/93166/annotation/102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"J'ai été plusieurs fois, pas personnellement, disons, je vous ai dit qu'à Cracovie, toujours, tout d'abord, on pensait que j'étais mort, parce qu'ils ont reçu l'information que j'étais fusillé avec.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169541/file/308169#t=735.0,751.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169541/file/308169/transcript/93166/annotation/103","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"On m'a emmené avec dix autres pour être fusillé.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169541/file/308169#t=751.0,755.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169541/file/308169/transcript/93166/annotation/104","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"On a fusillé cinq et cinq on a laissé, moi j'étais parmi ces cinq.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169541/file/308169#t=755.0,760.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169541/file/308169/transcript/93166/annotation/105","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Or, ce n'était pas mon cas personnel parce que j'étais comme anonyme là-bas.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169541/file/308169#t=760.0,766.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169541/file/308169/transcript/93166/annotation/106","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Après, il y avait cette pendaison où finalement j'ai perdu la 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travailler.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169541/file/308169#t=790.0,794.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169541/file/308169/transcript/93166/annotation/111","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Alors qu'il m'a soigné clandestinement.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169541/file/308169#t=794.0,796.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169541/file/308169/transcript/93166/annotation/112","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"J'étais directeur de cette grande institution médicale chez vous 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soigné.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169541/file/308169#t=807.0,811.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169541/file/308169/transcript/93166/annotation/116","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Intervieweur: Et comme vous souvenez, c'est une question vulgaire.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169541/file/308169#t=811.0,817.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169541/file/308169/transcript/93166/annotation/117","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Michel Borwitz: Ah vous savez ça, je l'ai décrit tous dans cette 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d'abord,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169541/file/308169#t=834.0,837.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169541/file/308169/transcript/93166/annotation/120","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Quand j'étais saisi, alors j'étais dans ce bunker de prison, dans la prison, dans le camp, parce que le camp était déjà une prison.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169541/file/308169#t=837.0,850.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169541/file/308169/transcript/93166/annotation/121","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Tout d'abord, j'étais déjà très affaibli.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169541/file/308169#t=850.0,857.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169541/file/308169/transcript/93166/annotation/122","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Et j'attendais toujours, j'attendais.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169541/file/308169#t=857.0,861.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169541/file/308169/transcript/93166/annotation/123","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Je crois que j'étais pris le matin, c'est le lendemain au matin qu'on ne m'a pas dit.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169541/file/308169#t=861.0,868.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169541/file/308169/transcript/93166/annotation/124","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Alors 24 heures, j'attendais.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169541/file/308169#t=868.0,871.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169541/file/308169/transcript/93166/annotation/125","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Alors tout a passé, bien 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tortures.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169541/file/308169#t=880.0,889.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169541/file/308169/transcript/93166/annotation/128","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Alors il y avait l'histoire parce qu'il y avait dans notre groupe, il y avait plusieurs doses de poison.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169541/file/308169#t=889.0,897.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169541/file/308169/transcript/93166/annotation/129","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"On les portait ici, vous savez, sous une sorte de.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169541/file/308169#t=897.0,903.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169541/file/308169/transcript/93166/annotation/130","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Non, non, c'est des sparadraps, comment ça s'appelle ?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169541/file/308169#t=903.0,912.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169541/file/308169/transcript/93166/annotation/131","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Oui, oui, mais toujours, vous savez, quand il fallait, il n'y en avait pas parce qu'on a donné à quelqu'un d'autre.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169541/file/308169#t=912.0,918.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169541/file/308169/transcript/93166/annotation/132","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"qui paraissaient plus menacées.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169541/file/308169#t=918.0,921.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169541/file/308169/transcript/93166/annotation/133","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Or, je pensais toujours comment on m'empoisonnait, mais ça n'allait 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dit","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169541/file/308169#t=941.0,945.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169541/file/308169/transcript/93166/annotation/136","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"une foule de pensées et aucune pensée toute entière.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169541/file/308169#t=945.0,950.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/169541/file/308169/transcript/93166/annotation/137","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"C'est à dire que ce sont des miettes qui vous passent, qui vous revoyez, disons, j'ai vu beaucoup de pendaisons de fusilla dans le camp 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