{"@context":"http://iiif.io/api/presentation/3/context.json","id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/iiif/wh2d79793z/manifest","type":"Manifest","label":{"en":["1689 - Leah - Leika Zur, no. 1"]},"logo":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/610/original/aviary_default_logo.png?1724134410","metadata":[{"label":{"en":["Identifier"]},"value":{"en":["1689 (IDEA Catalog No.)"]}},{"label":{"en":["Agent"]},"value":{"en":["Gouri Haim (Interviewer)","Zur Leah - Leika (Interviewee)"]}},{"label":{"en":["Date"]},"value":{"en":["1978-01-11"]}},{"label":{"en":["Description"]},"value":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eDocumentary Trilogy testimonies: Leah - Leika Zur, no. 1.\u003cbr\u003e\u003cbr\u003e\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003eContent: Leah - Leika Zur, the only surviving remnant of her entire family, describes her experiences from the end of the war and until her immigration to Israel. In Kibbutz Dror in Lodz she found not only an ideology but also a home. Leah took a counselor course and began caring for children - from gathering orphaned children at railway stations to educating them in children’s homes and accompanying them along the escape routes across borders. She recounts the voyage on the ‘Theodor Herzl’ ship of ma’apilim (illegal immigrants to Eretz Israel), the struggle against the British, and the deportation to Cyprus. Throughout her testimony, Leah emphasizes the sense of mission and the resilience of the young survivors in building their national future.\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003e \u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003eThe Ghetto Fighters' House Museum produced three documentary films known as The Documentary Trilogy. The films are: The 81st Blow (1974), The Last Sea (1979), and Flames in the Ashes (1985). The creators were David Bergman, Jacquot Ehrlich, and Haim Gouri.\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003e\u003cbr\u003eMany recorded testimonies were integrated into the films. The raw materials of the testimonies are kept in the archive of the Ghetto Fighters' House Museum.\u003c/p\u003e (general)"]}},{"label":{"en":["Keyword"]},"value":{"en":["Testimonies","Trilogy","Films","Ghetto","Death Marches","Dror - Youth Movement","Repatriation","Liberation","Children","Revenge","Coordinatsia (Zionist Coordination)"]}},{"label":{"en":["Coverage"]},"value":{"en":["Silesia","Lodz","Stutthof - Camp","Bielawa Dolna (Langenbielau)"]}},{"label":{"en":["Language"]},"value":{"en":["Hebrew"]}},{"label":{"en":["Format"]},"value":{"en":["mp3"]}},{"label":{"en":["Subject"]},"value":{"en":["Borzykowski Tuvia"]}},{"label":{"en":["Contributor"]},"value":{"en":["Ghetto Fighters' House Museum"]}}],"summary":{"en":["\u003cp\u003eDocumentary Trilogy testimonies: Leah - Leika Zur, no. 1.\u003cbr /\u003e\u003cbr /\u003e\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003eContent: Leah - Leika Zur, the only surviving remnant of her entire family, describes her experiences from the end of the war and until her immigration to Israel. In Kibbutz Dror in Lodz she found not only an ideology but also a home. Leah took a counselor course and began caring for children - from gathering orphaned children at railway stations to educating them in children\u0026rsquo;s homes and accompanying them along the escape routes across borders. She recounts the voyage on the \u0026lsquo;Theodor Herzl\u0026rsquo; ship of ma\u0026rsquo;apilim (illegal immigrants to Eretz Israel), the struggle against the British, and the deportation to Cyprus. Throughout her testimony, Leah emphasizes the sense of mission and the resilience of the young survivors in building their national future.\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003e\u0026nbsp;\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003eThe Ghetto Fighters' House Museum produced three documentary films known as The Documentary Trilogy. The films are: The 81st Blow (1974), The Last Sea (1979), and Flames in the Ashes (1985). The creators were David Bergman, Jacquot Ehrlich, and Haim Gouri.\u003c/p\u003e\r\n\u003cp\u003e\u003cbr /\u003eMany recorded testimonies were integrated into the films. The raw materials of the testimonies are kept in the archive of the Ghetto Fighters' House Museum.\u003c/p\u003e"]},"provider":[{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/aboutus","type":"Agent","label":{"en":["Ghetto Fighters' House"]},"homepage":[{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/","type":"Text","label":{"en":["Ghetto Fighters' House"]},"format":"text/html"}],"logo":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/organizations/logo_images/000/000/610/original/aviary_default_logo.png?1724134410","type":"Image"}]}],"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collections/default_thumbs/000/002/950/small/Gemini_Generated_Image_nr5cx8nr5cx8nr5c.png?1769692460","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845","type":"Canvas","label":{"en":["Media File 1 of 1 - 1689.wav"]},"duration":1412.60304,"width":640,"height":40,"thumbnail":[{"id":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/collections/default_thumbs/000/002/950/small/Gemini_Generated_Image_nr5cx8nr5cx8nr5c.png?1769692460","type":"Image","format":"image/png"}],"items":[{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/content/1","type":"AnnotationPage","items":[{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/content/1/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"painting","body":{"id":"https://aviary-p-gfhorgil.s3.wasabisys.com/collection_resource_files/resource_files/000/249/845/original/1689.wav?1725185544","type":"Audio","format":"audio/wav","duration":1412.60304,"width":640,"height":40},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845","metadata":[{"label":{"en":["360 Video"]},"value":{"en":["TRUE"]}}]}]}],"annotations":[{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["1689 [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/1","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=0.0,2.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"דובר_1:\t32. בבקשה.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=2.0,3.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"מראיין:\tלא הגעת, אה, לביתך? לא, לא, לא רצית להגיע?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=3.0,6.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"לאה לייקה צור:\tאה, אני הייתי כבר לפני הבית אבל לא נכנסתי. תראו,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=6.0,10.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אני ידעתי בדיוק שאין משפחה. זאת אומרת ככה, אבי מת כבר בגטו ב-42'. עכשיו אימי ושתי אחיותיי היו איתי","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=10.0,20.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"בשטוטהוף עוד והיינו כל הזמן יחד. עכשיו ככה, אימי","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=20.0,30.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"מתה מטיפוס שם במחנה, זמן מה לפני שהוציאו אותנו משמה. וכשהיה","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=30.0,40.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"היציאה הזאת משטוטהוף לדרך הייתי עם אחותי שהייתה שש שנים גדולה ממני ועם אחות קטנה שהצלחנו, היא הייתה ארבע שנים קטנה ממני.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=40.0,50.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"קטנה ממש, ילדה. היא גם לא כל כך גדלה והיא הייתה כבר, אז כשגמרנו במחנה היא הייתה אולי כבר בת 13. אבל,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=50.0,60.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כן, היא הייתה בת ש, אבל היא הייתה קטנה, קטנה ורזה ו, וכשהתחיל הגירוש הזה התחילו ללכת בחורף שם בשלגים,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=60.0,70.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אז הם כל הזמן האיצו וכבר לא היה כוח. אז, אה, היא נגררה ואני נגררתי יחד איתה ואחותי הגדולה","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=70.0,80.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"יחד, שלושתנו יחד, והיא כל הזמן נפלה לנו, אז, אה, היינו צריכים להרים אותה והזדנבנו אחרי כולם. בסופו של","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=80.0,90.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"עניין, הזה שהלך אחריה, יר, ירה בה והרג אותה. את, אה, את אחותי הקטנה. אז נשארנו שתיים.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=90.0,100.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אחר כך היו איזה לילות שלנו, כל הלילות לנו באיזשהו מקום, בדרך כלל בכנסייה בכפרים האלה,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=100.0,110.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כי ללילה היינו נכנסים לאיזשהו מקום. בינתיים אחותי הייתה חולה בטיפוס לפני זה וזה המחלה חזרה. היא הייתה,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=110.0,120.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כבר התרפאה אבל, והיא חלתה בטיפוס, אז בכלל היא לא יכלה ללכת. ובאחד הלילות היא מתה באחת הכנסיות","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=120.0,130.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ונשארתי לבד. ואז ידעתי שבעצם בבית, אורגינלי, אין לי מה לחפש. בזה, לא היה לי שום צל של ספק.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=130.0,140.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אז הייתי כבר לפני הבית. עכשיו ככה, הבית לא היה שלנו, זה לא היה רכוש פרטי, זה היה דירה בשכר דירה.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=140.0,150.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"על, זה כבר ביררתי בוועד הקהילה. הם אמרו לי שדירה שהייתה בשכר דירה אין לנו זכויות עליה. יש, אפשר ל,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=150.0,160.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"לנהל משפטים על דירה שהייתה רכוש פרטי. חוץ מזה, אני אגיד לכם את האמת, לא היה לי שום עניין להתיישב לבד","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=160.0,170.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"בדירה של, של המשפחה. אני קודם כל רציתי להתחבר למשהו, לא לדירה. אז, אה, הייתי","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=170.0,180.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"לפני הבית, הסתכלתי הבית נשאר שלם, נכנסתי, זו הייתה דירה בתוך חצר, היה צריך לעבור מין ריבוע כזה ענקי. הסתכלתי","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=180.0,190.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"לחלונות, ראיתי שיש,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=190.0,193.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"דובר_1:\t[כך במקור] יש אותו? בסדר.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=193.0,198.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"לאה לייקה צור:\tאז, אהה,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=198.0,200.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ואז נזכרתי בעוזרת הזאת שהיא, היה דירה, ב, היא גרה, היא","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=200.0,210.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"הייתה נשואה ולא היו לה ילדים. זה גם כן, אה, ידעתי, הכרתי את הכתובת. הגעתי אליה, קיוויתי ש,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=210.0,220.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"בכל אופן, אה, עד ש, עד שיתברר מה, מה איתי, זה יהיה הכתובת שלי. מאוד אהבנו אותה, היא אהבה אותנו מאוד, לא היו לה ילדים משלה.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=220.0,230.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אבל, אה, זה לא היה זה, היא מאוד שמחה לפגוש אותי, באמת שמחה. אה, היא התחילה לשאול","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=230.0,240.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"על אימא ועל אבא ועל זה, פתאום התחילה לבכות. אמרתי: \"מה את בוכה? תהיי שמחה שאני חיה\". אז היא אומרת: \"כן אבל, זה לא","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=240.0,250.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"טוב\". אמרתי: \"מה קרה?\" ומסתבר שהיא הייתה, סבא שלי מסר לה רכוש","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=250.0,260.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"והיא מכרה אותו והיא חשבה שאני יודעת מזה ו, ושאני רוצה את","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=260.0,270.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"הרכוש. ואני בכלל לא ידעתי שיש לה רכוש של סבא. זאת בכלל הייתה עוזרת שהייתה קודם אצל סבא וסבתא ואחר כך היא הייתה אצלנו. אז","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=270.0,280.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כנראה סבא, באיזשהו שלב, הוא נספה בגטו, הוא מסר לה דברים לשמירה והיא הייתה אישה מאוד ישרה,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=280.0,290.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אבל היא התחילה לבכות נורא ואני התחלתי להרגיע אותה: \"אני לא רוצה את הדברים\". והיא התחילה למנות לי מה היא עשתה עם זה, ומה היא עשתה עם השמיכות,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=290.0,300.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ומה היא עשתה עם הפרווה, ואני אומרת לה: \"אני, זה לא מעניין או\", זה באמת לא עניין אותי. אני רציתי להישאר בבית הזה","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=300.0,310.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"עד ש, אבל הסתבר שלא היה לה כל כך בית, היה לה חדרון קטן ועוד חדרון קטן וזה","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=310.0,320.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"בעצם הכל, שמה היא גם בישלה. ולא היו לה ילדים, חשבתי שזה בהחלט מספיק גם בשבילי להעמיד שם באיזשהו מקום מיטה, אז היא אמרה לי שאי","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=320.0,330.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אפשר. טוב, הבנתי שגם זה הלך לאיבוד ופה התחלתי להיות כבר קצת מודאגת מפני","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=330.0,340.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"שלא ידעתי בעצם, האולטימטום שם אצל הזוג החייטים עמד לפוג ואני לא פוגשת אף אחד.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=340.0,349.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"מראיין:\tבת כמה היית אז?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=349.0,350.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"לאה לייקה צור:\tאממ, 18.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=350.0,355.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"מראיין:\tתאמרי, הייתי, הייתי אז בת 18.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=355.0,358.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"לאה לייקה צור:\tטוב אז, אה,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=358.0,360.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"הייתי אז בת 18 ועוד בדרך מהחברה הזאת החלטתי אני אכנס לוועד הקהילה עוד פעם, כי הרשימות התמלאו.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=360.0,370.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"היה רישום יומי וכל יום היה משהו חדש. בוועד הקהילה פגשתי בחורה שהייתה איתי בבית","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=370.0,380.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ספר בגטו. אצלם היה בכלל תיכון אחד ענקי, עם המון תלמידים. היא לא הייתה בכיתה שלי,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=380.0,390.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"היא הייתה יותר גדולה, היא הייתה בכיתה של אחותי. אחותי בכלל קיבלה תעודת בגרות בגטו. זה, גם זה היה. חתומה על ידי אחד שהיה שם","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=390.0,400.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ראש עיר כזה מפורסם. אז הוא חתם על התעודות בגרות. דרך אגב, רק שנה אחת הוציאו כי אחר כך סגרו את בית הספר. והחברה הזאת של אחותי,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=400.0,410.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"היא הביאה אותי לבית של התנועה, ששמה התחילו לאסוף אנטק והחבורה שלו בלודז'.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=410.0,420.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"זה היה אז תקופה קצרצרה אחרי שפתחו את הסניף בוורשה, אז הם התחילו לפתוח בלודז'. והיא הביאה אותי לשמה","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=420.0,430.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"והיא אמרה לי: \"פה אין בעיות. גם אוכל, גם מיטה, גם חברה, הכל. ונוסעים לישראל\".","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=430.0,440.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"בכלל זה היה נראה לי כמו אוטופיה. אז זה, זה לא יכול להיות אמת.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=440.0,444.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"מראיין:\tת, תחזרי על המשפט הזה ותאמרי: \"נוסעים לארץ ישראל\". כי המושג ישראל אז עוד לא היה קיים.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=444.0,449.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"לאה לייקה צור:\tנכון, ארץ ישראל.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=449.0,450.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"מראיין:\tאת, את אמרת: \"נוסעים לישראל\".","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=450.0,452.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"לאה לייקה צור:\tנכון, נכון.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=452.0,453.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"מראיין:\tאז תחזרי על זה.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=453.0,453.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"לאה לייקה צור:\tלא, לא דייקתי.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=453.0,454.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"מראיין:\tכן.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=454.0,454.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"לאה לייקה צור:\tנוסעים לארץ ישראל. וזה, זה היה משהו, זה","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=454.0,460.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"לא, אני לא כל כך האמנתי לה כי כל האכזבות שהיו זה לא יכול, היה יותר מדי יפה בשביל שזה יהיה אמת. ובכן זה היה","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=460.0,470.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אמת. היא לא התחברה לשמה, כי היא היה לה כבר איזה ידיד בינתיים מאותה לודז' ש, שכבר הייתה חודשיים משוחררת, היה לה כבר, אה, מסלול, אה,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=470.0,480.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"גמור. גם היא אמרה לי שהיא נוסעת לישראל, אבל לא, היא נוסעת עם בעלה. ובאמת קיבלו אותי נהדר.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=480.0,490.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ומצאתי חבורה, לא יודעת כמה היינו אז, אולי 20 בדירה פרטית,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=490.0,500.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"מיטות בקומות, פעם הראשונה בחיים שלי ראיתי דבר כזה. והתחילה,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=500.0,510.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"התחילו ללמד אותי ציונות ואולי בקורס מזורז","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=510.0,520.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"מאוד, כי בעוד עשרה ימים התחיל קורס מדריכים, סמינר קוראים לזה, סמינר. ובעצם, אה, כמעט חבורה שלמה","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=520.0,530.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"מלודז' ומוורשה ומאיזה מקום עוד? אני חושבת שלא היו עוד מקומות. התאספנו בלודז'","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=530.0,540.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ושוב פעם לודז' מפני שלודז' הייתה, היו בה מקומות שאפשר, אה, אה, למצוא שיכון","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=540.0,550.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ו, ובית ובינתיים זה היה צריך להיות הקדר.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=550.0,557.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"מראיין:\tאז מה ה,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=557.0,558.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"לאה לייקה צור:\tוהייתי שם,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=558.0,559.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"מראיין:\tניתן לומר","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=559.0,560.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"שהקיבוץ הזה היה תחליף לבית?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=560.0,562.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"לאה לייקה צור:\t[כך במקור] זה, זה לא היה אידאה. אה, הקיבוץ הזה היה","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=562.0,570.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"בית. בית שלי לגמרי. והידיעה שמשם נוסעים לארץ ישראל היא הייתה,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=570.0,580.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אה, יותר מאשר חלום פנטסטי. זה, אבל זאת הייתה המציאות, זה היה אמת. ומיד בתום הסמינר,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=580.0,590.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"הוא היה שישה שבועות, אז ה, היינו אמורים לעבוד עם ילדים. כולם. בעצם רובם.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=590.0,600.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כי,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=600.0,601.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"מראיין:\tמה, מה כלל הסמינר הזה? מה, מה למדתם בו?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=601.0,603.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"לאה לייקה צור:\tהו, קצת עברית, על קצה המזלג, מעט מאוד. אה, וקצת ידיעת","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=603.0,610.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"הארץ. קראו לזה אז, מצחיק, פלשתינוגרפיה. זה אני עוד זוכרת את השם של המקצוע. אה,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=610.0,620.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"קצת ציונות וקצת סוציאליזם. המורים היו כולם, אה, מ, מהכ, מהחברים של, טוביה בוז'יקובסקי היה המנהל. זה, אגב,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=620.0,630.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"הייתה אז עוד, אה, תנועה מאוחדת. שאחר כך היה מי שטרח מהמשלחת הישראלית לפלג את זה לזרמים. בסיום הסמינר","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=630.0,640.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"היה גם סיום ה, האידיליה של התנועה המאוחדת החלוצית, שהייתה אמורה להגיע ארצה ולאחד","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=640.0,650.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"את הקיבוצים. זאת הייתה המגמה. כבר אז בסמינר היה ברור לגמרי שכשאנחנו נגיע ארצה נעשה סדר, אין צורך בכל","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=650.0,660.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כך הרבה תנועות, אנחנו נבוא ונגיד שאפשר גם יחד וזהו. ואז לסיום הסמינר הגיעה משלחת גדולה של שליחים מכל התנועות","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=660.0,670.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"והם הצליחו בעורמה, אני חושבת שבעורמה, לפלג אותנו. וזה הם","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=670.0,680.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"עשו אן דן דינו זה לתנועה, אה, הם לפי איזשהו, בין השמוצניקים ובין הקיבוץ המאוחד התחלקו ה, בוגרי הסמינר. תנועה שלישית בתוך זה","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=680.0,690.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"לא הייתה. אז אני לא יודעת למה, כי כנראה לא היו שם שליחים בשביל שיחטפו את החלק שלהם. מקרי, השאירו","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=690.0,700.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אותי, אבל ככה זה חולק. כולנו הלכנו לעבוד עם ילדים, מיד אחרי הסמינר התחילה להגיע רפטריאציה,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=700.0,710.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"והתחילו לאסוף גם ילדים יהודים שהיו מפוזרים אצל גויים. ואת זה כבר אני הייתי כבר עסוקה בלאסוף אותם.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=710.0,720.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"מראיין:\tלפני הרפטריאציה, נתקלת בילדים בדרכם? בדרך ללודז'? בלודז'?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=720.0,725.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"לאה לייקה צור:\tבלודז' העיר, כן, קצת. באותה תקופה זה בעצם כבר יצא מקביל.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=725.0,730.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"רפטריאציה והסיום הסמינר זה כבר יצא די מקביל.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=730.0,736.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/97","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"מראיין:\tואז, ואז ראית ילדים,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=736.0,737.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"לאה לייקה צור:\tאז אני, ה, הג'וב הראשון היה","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=737.0,740.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"לעמוד בתחנות רכבת. אני נשארתי בלודז' קודם כל מפני שזאת הייתה קהילה גדולה, לשמה זרמו רבים. ושנית, אני הייתי מלודז' אז העיר הייתה מוכרת לי","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=740.0,750.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"היטב. אז אני נשארתי בעיר עם עוד כמה חברים והיינו הולכים כל בוקר לתחנת רכבת. והיינו נשארים שם שעות,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=750.0,760.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"שעות ואוספים ילדים. פשוט אוספים ילדים. והילדים רצו ל, שיאספו אותם. אגב, היה לנו גם,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=760.0,768.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"מראיין:\tרגע, רגע, אני רוצה להבין.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=768.0,770.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/103","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"הם הגיעו, הרי הם הגיעו בקבוצות, הם הגיעו מרוסיה, מה זה נקרא \"אספו ילדים\"? הם היו שייכים למישהו.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=770.0,776.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/104","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"לאה לייקה צור:\tכן. אז זה היה ככה. הגיעו טרנספורטים,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=776.0,780.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/105","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אני לא יודעת בדיוק את ה, איך אומרים את הארגון, איך הוא פעל, אבל גם הקהילה היהודית ידעה מי ילד","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=780.0,790.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/106","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"בודד, והם עזרו לנו. ובתחנות רכבת זרמו ילדים בודדים גם כן שהגיעו ככה עם הזרם,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=790.0,800.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/107","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אז, אה, ו, והכל זה היה מאורגן בהתחלת הדרך, זה היה מאורגן שזה הגיע למטרה הסופית. והמטרה הסופית אז הייתה לודז' להרבה מאוד","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=800.0,810.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/108","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כתובות, לא ורשה, כי ורשה הייתה הרוסה מאוד. זה בכלל לא היה כתובת כי שם לא היו מגורים. אז, אה, היה, היינו ארגון","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=810.0,820.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/109","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"שלם שעבד בתחנת הרכבת. כל מיני, הקהילה היהודית ותנועות הנוער ו, מהר מאוד היה לנו כמה עשרות ילדים ובלודז', העיר,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=820.0,830.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/110","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"לא היה טוב. לא היה טוב ל, לבנות שם משהו. אנחנו גם חשבנו שנצטרך לחכות לסרטיפיקטים, ולא היה ברור","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=830.0,840.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/111","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כמה זמן צריך לחכות לסרטיפיקטים. והייתה מודעות שצריך לצאת מהעיר המחניקה עם התנאים המאוד מוגבלים","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=840.0,850.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/112","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"והציעו לנו וזה היו כבר ה, איך אומרים, הממשלה הפולנית, העירייה אני לא יודעת מה, שנצא שמה.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=850.0,860.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/113","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"שמה הכל פתוח, כל האפשרויות. בתי ספר פנויים כי,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=860.0,865.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/114","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"מראיין:\tשלזיה.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=865.0,865.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/115","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"לאה לייקה צור:\tשלזיה.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=865.0,866.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/116","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"מראיין:\tעכשיו לפני שנגיע לזה, אני רציתי לשאול, אממ, בעניין","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=866.0,870.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/117","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"הילדים. ו, וגם מאוד חשובה לנו. תספרי לנו משהו על ה, על הילדים האלה, על עולמם,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=870.0,880.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/118","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אה, י, יתמותם. הרי זה תכף היה ודאי,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=880.0,884.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/119","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"לאה לייקה צור:\tכל, כל אחד והסיפור שלו.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=884.0,886.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/120","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"מראיין:\tאיזה ילדים אלה היו?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=886.0,890.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/121","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"לאה לייקה צור:\tאפילו אי אפשר להכניס את זה לקטגוריה, מפני שקודם כל הגיל היה שונה מאוד. היו גם בני שמונה","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=890.0,900.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/122","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"עד, עד, אה, גיל 14, זה עוד היה שייך לקטגוריה של הילדים, והיה חלק גדול","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=900.0,910.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/123","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"שההורים מסרו אותם ל, לאיכרים, לכפר. ואלה הגורל שלהם היה מאוד שונה,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=910.0,920.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/124","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"היה לפעמים מישהו שנקלע למשפחה ונשאר שמה, אומץ ונשאר והיה לו טוב, כלומר, טוב יחסית,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=920.0,930.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/125","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כמובן. נשאר באותו, באותו בית כל ה, כל התקופה. והיה מישהו אחר שהגויים","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=930.0,940.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/126","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"שקיבלו אותו לא יכלו להחזיק אותו כי זאת הייתה באמת סכנה להחזיק ילד יהודי, אז הם היו מוסרים אותו מיד ליד ואחר כך הוא כבר היה נודד","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=940.0,950.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/127","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"לבד. אה, ואחר כך הוא היה מגיע לאיזושהי עיירה ואחר כך זה, נגמר מלחמה, אז יהודים היו בכל מקום כבר","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=950.0,960.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/128","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אז, אז הם היו דואגים שהילד עם ימסר לקהילה היהודית והם שלחו אותו. אה, זה היו ילדים,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=960.0,970.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/129","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אה, שידעו יופי להסתדר. נורא עצמאיים. יותר מדי עצמאיים, שום בעיות.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=970.0,980.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/130","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אה, כל מיני.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=980.0,983.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/131","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"מראיין:\tתסגור את זה.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=983.0,984.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/132","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"לאה לייקה צור:\tהפסקה. הב, [כך במקור] אז, אה, אני לא זוכרת.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=984.0,987.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/133","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"מראיין:\tכן, את אומרת שהם היו עצמאיים הילדים האלה.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=987.0,990.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/134","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"לאה לייקה צור:\tאתם מנתקים, כן. ואני לא יודעת איך לאפיין, כמו כל הילדים, רק עצמאיים.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=990.0,1000.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/135","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אהה,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=1000.0,1001.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/136","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"מראיין:\tאת לא זוכרת, אה, סליחה על השאלות אבל, אה, משברים קשים? הם ראו,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=1001.0,1009.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/137","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"לאה לייקה צור:\tכן.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=1009.0,1009.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/138","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"מראיין:\tאותך,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=1009.0,1009.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/139","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"לאה לייקה צור:\tכן.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=1009.0,1009.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/140","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"מראיין:\tהם ראו בך","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=1009.0,1010.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/141","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אם ש, איך הם קיבלו אותך?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=1010.0,1011.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/142","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"לאה לייקה צור:\tהו, תראה, זה לא היה אוטומטי. תראה, קרה להם בעצם מה שקרה לי. כשהם הגיעו לעיר הגדולה אז הם שמחו מאוד למצוא","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=1011.0,1020.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/143","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"מישהו ש, שרוצה שיהיה להם מיטה. וזה בדיוק מה שאמרנו. \"יש לך אבא?״ ״לא״, ״יש לך אימא?״ ״לא״, ״אתה רוצה לגור","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=1020.0,1030.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/144","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"באיזשהו מקום?\" בטח, הוא רוצה לגור. אז, אה, זה לא היה קשה לפתות אותם. זה בעצם היה צריך לפתות","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=1030.0,1040.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/145","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אותם, ואם הבטחת בית וקיימת, כי היה בית, אז לא היה בעיה. עם חלק מהם, היה בעיה של מסגרת.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=1040.0,1050.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/146","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כי הם היו רוצים בעצם שיהיה בית, אבל שיהיו חופשיים כי הם, חלק גדול התרגל להיות חופשי. ותביעות כאלה ממוסדות כמו","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=1050.0,1060.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/147","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ללמוד, וזה התחלנו מיד, אז זה היו תביעות שלא כל כך התקבלו ב, כמובן מאליו. ב, אצל חלק כן,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=1060.0,1070.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/148","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ילדות יותר. בנים זה היה קשה. אנחנו רצנו הרבה פעמים לתחנת רכבת בחזרה לחפש אותם. הרבה פעמים.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=1070.0,1080.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/149","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"היה לנו ממש תרגול כבר. שאחד הולך לאיבוד, אז זה ברור לגמרי שהוא הולך לתחנת רכבת, הוא יסע למקום אחר איפה שאפשר לחיות בלי ללמוד,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=1080.0,1090.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/150","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"נניח. כי המסגרת של הלימודים לא כל כך הייתה ברו, ב, מובנת שזה נחוץ לבן אדם בהתחלה.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=1090.0,1100.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/151","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אבל, אה, ולאט, לאט, ל, ככה עברנו שם לבית בביילבה, זה","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=1100.0,1110.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/152","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"היה עוד מאוכלס גרמנים. ואנחנו שאלנו שם במשרד שמאכלס שאנחנו לא רוצים בית מגורים סתם, אנחנו נוסעים","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=1110.0,1120.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/153","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"עם 80 ילדים, אנחנו רוצים, אה, בית ש, שאפשר יהיה לעשות שמה, להתיישב.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=1120.0,1130.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/154","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"בית יתומים קראו לזה, אז לפני השלטונות היינו בית ילדים יהודי. אז הם אמרו ככה:","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=1130.0,1140.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/155","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\"תלכו ותגידו שאתם באתם מטעם זה וזה עם שם, ותתנו להם, תבחרו","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=1140.0,1150.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/156","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"בית, תלכו ברחוב, תחפשו בית, הבית יראה לכם מתאים, תיכנסו ותגידו שיצאו תוך 24 שעות ו, ותיכנסו לתוך הבית\". אני אומרת:","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=1150.0,1160.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/157","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\"איך זה ידפוק?\" \"יש לכם חבר במדים?\" היו לנו חברים במדים מפני שקודם כל, כל האלה שהשתחררו מהצבא בכלל שמרו על המדים.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=1160.0,1170.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/158","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"זה לא בעיה מדים. \"תלבשו מדים,\"","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=1170.0,1173.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/159","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"מראיין:\tמ-המ.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=1173.0,1173.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/160","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"לאה לייקה צור:\t\"ותלכו ל, להחרים בית\". זה מה שעשינו. נסענו לביילבה, אני","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=1173.0,1180.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/161","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"נסעתי עם חבר אחד, לא זוכרת את שמו. הוא היה באמת עוד חייל, הוא עוד לא השתחרר רסמית, אבל הוא כבר היה לפני השחרור. נסענו יחד, מצאנו","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=1180.0,1190.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/162","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"קליניקה פרטית של איזשהו רופא, הסתכלנו בחוץ, הגינה והבית, אה, מתאים לגמרי. נכנסנו פנימה, דפקנו","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=1190.0,1200.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/163","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"על הדלת, סיפרנו מ, מטעם מי אנחנו באים, סיפרנו שקיבלנו פקודה להחרים את הבית.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=1200.0,1210.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/164","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"הם קיבלו את הדין כמו, אם מותר להם, הם שאלו אותנו מה מותר להם להוציא? הם, היה נורא,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=1210.0,1220.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/165","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כמו סבונים. אז אמרנו שיקח את כלי ה, את הכלים של הדוקטור שזה אנחנו לא רוצים, שישאר. שישאר לו פרנסה, בכל אופן,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=1220.0,1230.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/166","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"ו, ושיקח חפצים אישיים.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=1230.0,1234.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/167","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"מראיין:\tבך הייתה שנאה? הייתה בך שמחת נקם, או שמחה לאיד או רחמים?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=1234.0,1240.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/168","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"לאה לייקה צור:\tנאמר ככה, לא היו לי נקיפות מצפון שגירשתי אותם. עברתי איתו את כל הבית, אמרתי לו מה הוא משאיר ומה הוא לוקח,","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=1240.0,1250.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/169","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אמרתי לו מתי זה צריך להיות פנוי למחרת. לא, לא רק אני, היה בחור איתי עם מדים, זה עשה יותר רושם.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=1250.0,1260.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/170","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"אני עברתי להגיד לו מה הוא יכול לקחת ומה הוא צריך להשאיר. השארתי לעצמנו רק את מה שנחוץ לנו לבית ילדים. כל","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=1260.0,1270.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/171","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"הציוד של המטבח, היה שמה מטבח של בית חולים. זה היה, זה לא קליניקה כזאתי, אני לא יודעת איך קוראים לזה, בארץ זה לא","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=1270.0,1280.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/172","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"קיים. בית חולים פרטי. הרופא היה מנתח והיו לו פציינטים ששכבו שמה. חדרים, חדרים של, אה, מיטות. זה היה בדיוק, בול.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=1280.0,1290.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/173","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"כלי מיטה, את כל זה אמרתי להשאיר. למחרת באנו לשמה, הוא עמד עם המפתחות בחוץ, עבר איתי בשביל","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=1290.0,1300.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/174","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"להראות לי שכל מה שאמרנו להשאיר, נשאר והלך. לא היו לי יסורי מצפון.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=1300.0,1310.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/175","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"רציתי ל, ראיתי את עצמי דווקא יורשת די, די טבעית של העסק הזה. לא היה אכפת לי מה יקרה איתו.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=1310.0,1320.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/176","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"שנאה ממש? כן, דווקא די ה, די, די","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=1320.0,1330.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/177","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"לא סבלתי אותם, נאמר ככה. היה לי אחר כך עוד כמה חוויות קשות, זה כבר כשהייתי בגרמניה, נסענו ברכבות, הם היו רעבים נורא.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=1330.0,1340.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/178","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"והיינו נוסעים עם, גם עם ילדים וגם לבד, לא מעט בדרכים. אכלנו סנדוויצ'ים, לנו היה אוכל טוב. הם היו מתים","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=1340.0,1350.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/179","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"לאכול את כל מה שנשאר ומתנהגים ב, בצורה הכי מופגנת שהם רוצים לזכות במשהו.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=1350.0,1360.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/180","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"דילמה. לחלק להם או לא לחלק להם? בתור אחת שהייתה מחלקת כל החיים ברכבת לאוכל","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=1360.0,1370.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/181","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"לחניכים, אז הם לא פעם די מתו בשביל שנחלק להם. חילקנו","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=1370.0,1380.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/182","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"להם, אבל לא בלב שלם. אה, כי, כי זה קשה לראות את זה, אבל לא מפני שרציתי שהם יהיו שבעים. זה משהו באמצע, אני","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=1380.0,1390.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/183","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"לא יודעת.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=1390.0,1392.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/184","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"מראיין:\tאולי זה בכל זאת רחמים באיזשהו מקום?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=1392.0,1396.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845/transcript/70916/annotation/185","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"לאה לייקה צור:\tלא יודעת, לא יודעת להגדיר את זה.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/134779/file/249845#t=1396.0,1412.60304"}]}]}]}