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Tony Bailey: Sleeper on the way down with a piece of balls of wood and a knife and a pot of paint and I produced those things and I went in there and we went through it all and roughly through the thing and then I, he played it all back and I said well that's ridiculous, I said that's far too long but we can surely cut that down.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164494/file/299407#t=0.0,25.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164494/file/299407/transcript/88070/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"So we went through the whole thing again knowing then, by 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Tony Bailey: Same night, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164494/file/299407#t=3507.0,3508.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164494/file/299407/transcript/88070/annotation/573","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Interviewer: December.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164494/file/299407#t=3508.0,3511.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164494/file/299407/transcript/88070/annotation/574","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Cpt. Tony Bailey: By 6 o'clock, we were back on patrol.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164494/file/299407#t=3511.0,3512.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164494/file/299407/transcript/88070/annotation/575","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Interviewer: And that was just setting up and down over the coast.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164494/file/299407#t=3512.0,3517.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164494/file/299407/transcript/88070/annotation/576","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Cpt. Tony Bailey: MR.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164494/file/299407#t=3517.0,3518.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164494/file/299407/transcript/88070/annotation/577","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"As a matter of interest, it was quite choppy weather out there, and two of the destroyers concerned were in dock for several months after that, the damage they received from the hull of the President Warfield, which was, as you know, was a river steamer.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164494/file/299407#t=3518.0,3534.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164494/file/299407/transcript/88070/annotation/578","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And she had a","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164494/file/299407#t=3534.0,3536.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164494/file/299407/transcript/88070/annotation/579","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"She had a very substantial rubbing stake, about 18 inches square, with a steel band along the outside of it, which created old Harry with the slender and fragile ship side of a destroyer, which was built for lightness.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164494/file/299407#t=3536.0,3557.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164494/file/299407/transcript/88070/annotation/580","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"And two of these destroyers were in dock for about 3 months, repairing from that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164494/file/299407#t=3557.0,3565.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164494/file/299407/transcript/88070/annotation/581","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Interviewer: One more fact about it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164494/file/299407#t=3565.0,3567.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164494/file/299407/transcript/88070/annotation/582","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"How long it took you, the whole operation, from, if you remember, from the moment you intercept or start to board the, or you call the president warfare to stop, to the moment you got hold of the whole ship and been able to direct it to Haifa.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164494/file/299407#t=3567.0,3585.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164494/file/299407/transcript/88070/annotation/583","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Cpt. Tony Bailey: Well, just stop it from him, will you?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164494/file/299407#t=3585.0,3591.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164494/file/299407/transcript/88070/annotation/584","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"What was the question?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164494/file/299407#t=3591.0,3593.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164494/file/299407/transcript/88070/annotation/585","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Interviewer: How long did it stay there?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164494/file/299407#t=3593.0,3595.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164494/file/299407/transcript/88070/annotation/586","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Cpt. Tony Bailey: From the first attempt to get alongside until the battle was over, it was just over 2 hours.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164494/file/299407#t=3595.0,3602.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164494/file/299407/transcript/88070/annotation/587","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Interviewer: What time it started?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164494/file/299407#t=3602.0,3606.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164494/file/299407/transcript/88070/annotation/588","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Cpt. Tony Bailey: I don't know what time that is.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164494/file/299407#t=3606.0,3608.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164494/file/299407/transcript/88070/annotation/589","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"I should think about 5 o'clock in the morning.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164494/file/299407#t=3608.0,3611.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164494/file/299407/transcript/88070/annotation/590","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"4.50 actually, 4.50 in the morning.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164494/file/299407#t=3611.0,3613.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164494/file/299407/transcript/88070/annotation/591","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Interviewer: So you remember that you have finished that in daylight?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164494/file/299407#t=3613.0,3615.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164494/file/299407/transcript/88070/annotation/592","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"It should have started in dawn.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164494/file/299407#t=3615.0,3619.0"},{"id":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164494/file/299407/transcript/88070/annotation/593","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"Cpt. Tony Bailey: It was just about beginning to get light when it finished.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://gfhorgil.aviaryplatform.com/collections/2950/collection_resources/164494/file/299407#t=3619.0,-1322.372"}]}]}]}